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		By: Benjamin Hojnik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Hojnik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2014 06:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/kingston-announces-new-fury-960gb-ssds-computex-2014-update/#comment-19440&quot;&gt;John&lt;/a&gt;.

Other manufactures atleast discontinue the product, if its flash is too expensive to manufacture and lanuch a new product, so you know what you get.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/kingston-announces-new-fury-960gb-ssds-computex-2014-update/#comment-19440">John</a>.</p>
<p>Other manufactures atleast discontinue the product, if its flash is too expensive to manufacture and lanuch a new product, so you know what you get.</p>
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		By: Benjamin Hojnik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Hojnik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2014 06:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/kingston-announces-new-fury-960gb-ssds-computex-2014-update/#comment-19439&quot;&gt;Joe Kerton&lt;/a&gt;.

&#062; Aren&#039;t all new drives using &quot;crappier&quot; flash? I would imagine that 
Micron, Toshiba, etc would be switching production lines over to support
 their new nodes and force guys to transition their products. I also 
read somewhere that as flash dies shrink, the quality of flash 
decreases.

No. While a lot of guys use 128Gbit flash (which is slower to its 64Gbit counterpart, since less dies can be use for a given capacity) almost no one is using async flash. Asycn flash is what makes V300 a crappy drive. It&#039;s interface dates back to 05&#039;, so you can imagine how slow that is (around 50MB/s per chanel, while others are doing 400MB/s). Thats the reason why it can only really do around 200MB/s of read, which is a joke, since everyone else at this price point has 550MB/s.
And smaller die shrinks (16nm for example) does not make the drive crapier. While endurance does decrease, its still high enough for everyone buying such drive

&#062; The v300 line has a good balance of performance and price. I&#039;m an entry
 level guy and not an extreme gamer, just wanted something to replace my
 slow HDD.

Not, it doesn&#039;t have a good balance. The new MX100 is what one can call a good balance of value, speed and capacity. v300 was good, when it came out (with toshiba flash) but right now it makes absolutly no sense, since there are better drives for the same price (or +/- 5$).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/kingston-announces-new-fury-960gb-ssds-computex-2014-update/#comment-19439">Joe Kerton</a>.</p>
<p>&gt; Aren&#8217;t all new drives using &#8220;crappier&#8221; flash? I would imagine that<br />
Micron, Toshiba, etc would be switching production lines over to support<br />
 their new nodes and force guys to transition their products. I also<br />
read somewhere that as flash dies shrink, the quality of flash<br />
decreases.</p>
<p>No. While a lot of guys use 128Gbit flash (which is slower to its 64Gbit counterpart, since less dies can be use for a given capacity) almost no one is using async flash. Asycn flash is what makes V300 a crappy drive. It&#8217;s interface dates back to 05&#8242;, so you can imagine how slow that is (around 50MB/s per chanel, while others are doing 400MB/s). Thats the reason why it can only really do around 200MB/s of read, which is a joke, since everyone else at this price point has 550MB/s.<br />
And smaller die shrinks (16nm for example) does not make the drive crapier. While endurance does decrease, its still high enough for everyone buying such drive</p>
<p>&gt; The v300 line has a good balance of performance and price. I&#8217;m an entry<br />
 level guy and not an extreme gamer, just wanted something to replace my<br />
 slow HDD.</p>
<p>Not, it doesn&#8217;t have a good balance. The new MX100 is what one can call a good balance of value, speed and capacity. v300 was good, when it came out (with toshiba flash) but right now it makes absolutly no sense, since there are better drives for the same price (or +/- 5$).</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2014 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/kingston-announces-new-fury-960gb-ssds-computex-2014-update/#comment-19439&quot;&gt;Joe Kerton&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot; I did my research before I bought an SSD. I did my research before I bought an SSD.&quot;

The thing about the V300 is that you can&#039;t really be sure what you are going to get even after the research. Their tech support person Jewel who is making canned excuses on Amazon and Newegg daily will not state anything specifically but will only obfuscate by saying that they use &quot;MLC NAND from various manufacturers.&quot;  I would love to hear about another manufacturer that currently does this because Kingston is the only one I have found.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/kingston-announces-new-fury-960gb-ssds-computex-2014-update/#comment-19439">Joe Kerton</a>.</p>
<p>&#8221; I did my research before I bought an SSD. I did my research before I bought an SSD.&#8221;</p>
<p>The thing about the V300 is that you can&#8217;t really be sure what you are going to get even after the research. Their tech support person Jewel who is making canned excuses on Amazon and Newegg daily will not state anything specifically but will only obfuscate by saying that they use &#8220;MLC NAND from various manufacturers.&#8221;  I would love to hear about another manufacturer that currently does this because Kingston is the only one I have found.</p>
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		By: Joe Kerton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Kerton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/kingston-announces-new-fury-960gb-ssds-computex-2014-update/#comment-19438&quot;&gt;Benjamin Hojnik&lt;/a&gt;.

I like Kingston stuff because I&#039;ve had great experiences with their DIMMs and thumbdrives. That doesn&#039;t make me a Kingston fanboy, I just like doing business with a company that takes care of it&#039;s customers and seems to be a popular choice for SSDs. I did my research before I bought an SSD. The v300 line has a good balance of performance and price. I&#039;m an entry level guy and not an extreme gamer, just wanted something to replace my slow HDD. 



And falling for fancy specs....  seems like you are falling for fancy benchmarks. Seems like everyone has a benchmark that shows their product as superior to others. Probably the same goes for specs.


Aren&#039;t all new drives using &quot;crappier&quot; flash? I would imagine that Micron, Toshiba, etc would be switching production lines over to support their new nodes and force guys to transition their products. I also read somewhere that as flash dies shrink, the quality of flash decreases. 


I am done talking on this subject. I don&#039;t think Kingston is a shady company. They don&#039;t have a history of being shady and the drive I bought meets their published specs (and exceeds a few of them). I feel like I got great value for my $$ and if I build a system for friends or family, I would likely go back to them again. 


Arguing in a forum is like pushing a boulder. No matter how hard you push, that boulder ain&#039;t going anywhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/kingston-announces-new-fury-960gb-ssds-computex-2014-update/#comment-19438">Benjamin Hojnik</a>.</p>
<p>I like Kingston stuff because I&#8217;ve had great experiences with their DIMMs and thumbdrives. That doesn&#8217;t make me a Kingston fanboy, I just like doing business with a company that takes care of it&#8217;s customers and seems to be a popular choice for SSDs. I did my research before I bought an SSD. The v300 line has a good balance of performance and price. I&#8217;m an entry level guy and not an extreme gamer, just wanted something to replace my slow HDD. </p>
<p>And falling for fancy specs&#8230;.  seems like you are falling for fancy benchmarks. Seems like everyone has a benchmark that shows their product as superior to others. Probably the same goes for specs.</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t all new drives using &#8220;crappier&#8221; flash? I would imagine that Micron, Toshiba, etc would be switching production lines over to support their new nodes and force guys to transition their products. I also read somewhere that as flash dies shrink, the quality of flash decreases. </p>
<p>I am done talking on this subject. I don&#8217;t think Kingston is a shady company. They don&#8217;t have a history of being shady and the drive I bought meets their published specs (and exceeds a few of them). I feel like I got great value for my $$ and if I build a system for friends or family, I would likely go back to them again. </p>
<p>Arguing in a forum is like pushing a boulder. No matter how hard you push, that boulder ain&#8217;t going anywhere.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2014 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/kingston-announces-new-fury-960gb-ssds-computex-2014-update/#comment-19436&quot;&gt;John&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, fury really makes no sense (given the price). Its using almost 3 year old controller (that is in some way still flawed) and crappy flash.


Unless you&#039;re diehard kingston fan or you easily fall for fancy specs, then you won&#039;t buy this at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/kingston-announces-new-fury-960gb-ssds-computex-2014-update/#comment-19436">John</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, fury really makes no sense (given the price). Its using almost 3 year old controller (that is in some way still flawed) and crappy flash.</p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;re diehard kingston fan or you easily fall for fancy specs, then you won&#8217;t buy this at all.</p>
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