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	Comments on: Samsung Announces 4th Gen V-NAND, 32TB SSD &#038; 1TB Single BGA SSD &#8211; Flash Memory Summit 2016 Update	</title>
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		By: Relatively Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2017 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had to follow up yesterday&#039;s wishful rant with a minor update.  Sure, &quot;gumstick&quot; (M.2 2280) PCIe 3.0 (4.0?) x4 (4-lane) media is a decent match for USB 3.1 Gen 2 as an enclosure interface on an external SSD, but USB 3.1 Gen 2 maxes out the media speed around 1100-1200 MB/sec.  True, this is better (than SATA 3 speeds), and remains acceptable for today.

But for the &quot;next generation&quot; (I don&#039;t mean NGFF/M.2) of &quot;newest crop&quot; BGA dime-sized SSD media, let&#039;s equip an enclosure for THAT with Thunderbolt 3 and a USB-C port, giving us &#062; 4 GB/sec throughput to a TB3-enabled host!  Again, more and more laptops/desktops are equipped with Thunderbolt 3 (and will be in the present and near-future), so let&#039;s develop newer solid-state storage to work externally (in enclosures) with today&#039;s and tomorrow&#039;s interfaces.  Warp factor 9, Captain!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to follow up yesterday&#8217;s wishful rant with a minor update.  Sure, &#8220;gumstick&#8221; (M.2 2280) PCIe 3.0 (4.0?) x4 (4-lane) media is a decent match for USB 3.1 Gen 2 as an enclosure interface on an external SSD, but USB 3.1 Gen 2 maxes out the media speed around 1100-1200 MB/sec.  True, this is better (than SATA 3 speeds), and remains acceptable for today.</p>
<p>But for the &#8220;next generation&#8221; (I don&#8217;t mean NGFF/M.2) of &#8220;newest crop&#8221; BGA dime-sized SSD media, let&#8217;s equip an enclosure for THAT with Thunderbolt 3 and a USB-C port, giving us &gt; 4 GB/sec throughput to a TB3-enabled host!  Again, more and more laptops/desktops are equipped with Thunderbolt 3 (and will be in the present and near-future), so let&#8217;s develop newer solid-state storage to work externally (in enclosures) with today&#8217;s and tomorrow&#8217;s interfaces.  Warp factor 9, Captain!</p>
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		By: Relatively Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fantastic.  NOW, somebody sell me a 1 TB NVMe BGA SSD like this in the retail market, AND a postage-stamp-sized enclosure with a male USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 port (10 Gb/sec, that is both a good speed match and becoming ubiquitous on all sorts of desktops/laptops) and voilá, the ultimate external (boot) &quot;thumb&quot; drive!  A 2.5&quot; SSD might fit in your shirt pocket, a &quot;gumstick&quot; M.2 2280 SSD enclosure is smaller still, but this is so small it would be easy to lose!

I&#039;ve been trying to do something similar with M.2 2280 drives and their similar-sized enclosures, but all such enclosures I can find max out at SATA 3 speeds (550 - 600 MB/sec), as they are B-keyed/for SATA-based M.2 SSDs.  It seems nobody makes an M.2 enclosure for 2280 PCIe SSD (I&#039;ll say it again, PCIe, not SATA) with an M-key interface for PCIe 2.0 or 3.0 4-lane media, AND a USB-C Gen 2 output port.  Such media might be a bit faster (I&#039;ve seen 2580 MB/sec read, 1540 MB/sec write on the wicked-fast PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 media, but that&#039;s darn expensive) than the interface, but I want to saturate that USB 3.1 Gen 2 interface at &#062;1GB/sec.  I&#039;m on the right track here, I know it, but nobody makes these enclosures.  Somebody, PLEASE, build us such wonderful (tiny) USB 3.1-out NVMe-based M.2 SSD enclosures, the market is very hungry for them!  Then, do it again for the tiny BGA SSDs and say goodbye to the slowish thumb drive media we have today.  Just &quot;jack in&quot; your dime-sized and boot in five seconds:  Woo hoo!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic.  NOW, somebody sell me a 1 TB NVMe BGA SSD like this in the retail market, AND a postage-stamp-sized enclosure with a male USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 port (10 Gb/sec, that is both a good speed match and becoming ubiquitous on all sorts of desktops/laptops) and voilá, the ultimate external (boot) &#8220;thumb&#8221; drive!  A 2.5&#8243; SSD might fit in your shirt pocket, a &#8220;gumstick&#8221; M.2 2280 SSD enclosure is smaller still, but this is so small it would be easy to lose!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to do something similar with M.2 2280 drives and their similar-sized enclosures, but all such enclosures I can find max out at SATA 3 speeds (550 &#8211; 600 MB/sec), as they are B-keyed/for SATA-based M.2 SSDs.  It seems nobody makes an M.2 enclosure for 2280 PCIe SSD (I&#8217;ll say it again, PCIe, not SATA) with an M-key interface for PCIe 2.0 or 3.0 4-lane media, AND a USB-C Gen 2 output port.  Such media might be a bit faster (I&#8217;ve seen 2580 MB/sec read, 1540 MB/sec write on the wicked-fast PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 media, but that&#8217;s darn expensive) than the interface, but I want to saturate that USB 3.1 Gen 2 interface at &gt;1GB/sec.  I&#8217;m on the right track here, I know it, but nobody makes these enclosures.  Somebody, PLEASE, build us such wonderful (tiny) USB 3.1-out NVMe-based M.2 SSD enclosures, the market is very hungry for them!  Then, do it again for the tiny BGA SSDs and say goodbye to the slowish thumb drive media we have today.  Just &#8220;jack in&#8221; your dime-sized and boot in five seconds:  Woo hoo!</p>
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		By: Gunnar Lindberg Årneby		</title>
		<link>https://www.thessdreview.com/flash-memory-summit-2016/sa/#comment-23534</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just ... WOW!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just &#8230; WOW!</p>
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