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		By: Jim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2015 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/ssd-of-the-week-amd-radeon-r7-just-0-29gb/#comment-22690&quot;&gt;Matt&lt;/a&gt;.

Matt-

The initial Acronis version I got with the R7 worked fine for the HDD to SSD transfer.  I left it on my computer but set it so it would not run in the background.

Guru does not sense the data distribution on my drive so I do not have the confidence  to send a TRIM command using it.  Guru does not consistently sense the correct state of the SATA connection, either.  I just keep it turned off.

I kept Toolbox around for TRIM.  Now I use other programs that keep the drive running tippy-top.  I just keep Toolbox turned off, too.

It is interesting that you have noticed a need to do a manual TRIM after 90 days or so even on your RAID 0 setup.

Hmm.  It seems like you are seeing performance degradations on all of your SSDs.  I call this &quot;choking&quot;.


Jim]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/ssd-of-the-week-amd-radeon-r7-just-0-29gb/#comment-22690">Matt</a>.</p>
<p>Matt-</p>
<p>The initial Acronis version I got with the R7 worked fine for the HDD to SSD transfer.  I left it on my computer but set it so it would not run in the background.</p>
<p>Guru does not sense the data distribution on my drive so I do not have the confidence  to send a TRIM command using it.  Guru does not consistently sense the correct state of the SATA connection, either.  I just keep it turned off.</p>
<p>I kept Toolbox around for TRIM.  Now I use other programs that keep the drive running tippy-top.  I just keep Toolbox turned off, too.</p>
<p>It is interesting that you have noticed a need to do a manual TRIM after 90 days or so even on your RAID 0 setup.</p>
<p>Hmm.  It seems like you are seeing performance degradations on all of your SSDs.  I call this &#8220;choking&#8221;.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/ssd-of-the-week-amd-radeon-r7-just-0-29gb/#comment-22656&quot;&gt;Jim&lt;/a&gt;.

Also I am sure you know this, you definitely seem to be well informed Jim, but Acronis 2014 or any Image Program that you trust really, is perfect for imaging your boot drive off to a spare drive, booting up under the Toolbox boot disc and running a security wipe, and then dumping the image right back too it. 


That is if you notice any performance loss. Obviously if you don&#039;t there is no reason too. But I think I mentioned in my first post that I run my OS on 2 850 Pro&#039;s now, and because I am on an AMD chipset, no TRIM. So I routinely, about once every 3 months or so, image raid 0 with Acronis 2014 (I have too many problems with 2015) and security wipe both drives, then dump the image back. Otherwise I do start to notice a slight performance drop. It is a hassle, but not a major one. 


Because I am running Raid 0 which has no parity, I backup every other day just in case of a failure (Not 1 Yet By the way), and I found about 90 days to be the time 2 256GB drives without trim can go before a noticeable performance drop. 


Any ways, I am sure you are aware of this option, and its probably just too inconvenient for you, but I figured I would share it just in case. 


FYI, screw the version that OCZ gives you, its too limited and doesn&#039;t let you create a boot disc, the paid Full 2014 Version (only install it to create the USB Boot Disk and then delete it if you hate un needed processes starting with your computer as much as I do) is in my opinion, the only way to go for a reliable image of an SSD. (I&#039;ve had alignment issues with Ghost and the few Linux tools I&#039;ve tried, 2014 has yet to fail me once)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/ssd-of-the-week-amd-radeon-r7-just-0-29gb/#comment-22656">Jim</a>.</p>
<p>Also I am sure you know this, you definitely seem to be well informed Jim, but Acronis 2014 or any Image Program that you trust really, is perfect for imaging your boot drive off to a spare drive, booting up under the Toolbox boot disc and running a security wipe, and then dumping the image right back too it. </p>
<p>That is if you notice any performance loss. Obviously if you don&#8217;t there is no reason too. But I think I mentioned in my first post that I run my OS on 2 850 Pro&#8217;s now, and because I am on an AMD chipset, no TRIM. So I routinely, about once every 3 months or so, image raid 0 with Acronis 2014 (I have too many problems with 2015) and security wipe both drives, then dump the image back. Otherwise I do start to notice a slight performance drop. It is a hassle, but not a major one. </p>
<p>Because I am running Raid 0 which has no parity, I backup every other day just in case of a failure (Not 1 Yet By the way), and I found about 90 days to be the time 2 256GB drives without trim can go before a noticeable performance drop. </p>
<p>Any ways, I am sure you are aware of this option, and its probably just too inconvenient for you, but I figured I would share it just in case. </p>
<p>FYI, screw the version that OCZ gives you, its too limited and doesn&#8217;t let you create a boot disc, the paid Full 2014 Version (only install it to create the USB Boot Disk and then delete it if you hate un needed processes starting with your computer as much as I do) is in my opinion, the only way to go for a reliable image of an SSD. (I&#8217;ve had alignment issues with Ghost and the few Linux tools I&#8217;ve tried, 2014 has yet to fail me once)</p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/ssd-of-the-week-amd-radeon-r7-just-0-29gb/#comment-22656&quot;&gt;Jim&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, I don&#039;t like Guru as Much. I have it installed on my PC as well. And while it gives much more information, at least in my case, it ALWAYS FAILS when doing the security wipe. It gets to 20 percent and says the drive is frozen. And no matter what i do, even booting up to the guru boot disk, the damn security wipe NEVER works! But, even after using GURU and it failing the security wipe, I fire up the Toolbox without even restarting, literally seconds later, and the Toolbox wipes the drive just fine! So I use Guru for everything else, including adding the Over Provisioning to the drive after freshly formatting it, but I keep Toolbox around just for easy Security Wipes.


But yeah, I do love the drives, and no security concerns in my case, and no problems. Although Find it funny because I just said in my last comment that the drive was at 98% health, I just noticed today after my last security wipe that it dropped to 97%. Thats still good I believe for the amount of data that I have written to it, but its Ironic that it chose that moment to drop. Any ways, I do hope this information is useful, although I talked my self into buying one after writing my last comment in this thread, and saw that the prices shot back up. The one place that has the 240GB&#039;s at the same price is NewEgg, and they are (or were at the time at least) currently out of stock, so that kind of sucked; but hopefully they&#039;ll go back down again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/ssd-of-the-week-amd-radeon-r7-just-0-29gb/#comment-22656">Jim</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, I don&#8217;t like Guru as Much. I have it installed on my PC as well. And while it gives much more information, at least in my case, it ALWAYS FAILS when doing the security wipe. It gets to 20 percent and says the drive is frozen. And no matter what i do, even booting up to the guru boot disk, the damn security wipe NEVER works! But, even after using GURU and it failing the security wipe, I fire up the Toolbox without even restarting, literally seconds later, and the Toolbox wipes the drive just fine! So I use Guru for everything else, including adding the Over Provisioning to the drive after freshly formatting it, but I keep Toolbox around just for easy Security Wipes.</p>
<p>But yeah, I do love the drives, and no security concerns in my case, and no problems. Although Find it funny because I just said in my last comment that the drive was at 98% health, I just noticed today after my last security wipe that it dropped to 97%. Thats still good I believe for the amount of data that I have written to it, but its Ironic that it chose that moment to drop. Any ways, I do hope this information is useful, although I talked my self into buying one after writing my last comment in this thread, and saw that the prices shot back up. The one place that has the 240GB&#8217;s at the same price is NewEgg, and they are (or were at the time at least) currently out of stock, so that kind of sucked; but hopefully they&#8217;ll go back down again.</p>
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		By: Les@TheSSDReview		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Les@TheSSDReview]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/ssd-of-the-week-amd-radeon-r7-just-0-29gb/#comment-22654&quot;&gt;Matt&lt;/a&gt;.

It is great having detailed contribution like this; thank you sincerely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/ssd-of-the-week-amd-radeon-r7-just-0-29gb/#comment-22654">Matt</a>.</p>
<p>It is great having detailed contribution like this; thank you sincerely.</p>
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		By: Jim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/ssd-of-the-week-amd-radeon-r7-just-0-29gb/#comment-22654&quot;&gt;Matt&lt;/a&gt;.

Matt-

I kind of figured that force of habit might be the reason, unless security entered into the picture.

I&#039;ve had one in service for over a year as a boot drive.  Wiping it would be disastrous for me.  The Radeon Toolbox has been supplanted by Guru, by the way.

I like the fact that the R7 has MLC NAND.  It is working fine, but I have gotten away from Toolbox and Guru.

I keep Toolbox and Guru on my computer but would use them now only for firmware updates, which I have only had to do once.  Otherwise, they are too buggy.

Jim]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/ssd-of-the-week-amd-radeon-r7-just-0-29gb/#comment-22654">Matt</a>.</p>
<p>Matt-</p>
<p>I kind of figured that force of habit might be the reason, unless security entered into the picture.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had one in service for over a year as a boot drive.  Wiping it would be disastrous for me.  The Radeon Toolbox has been supplanted by Guru, by the way.</p>
<p>I like the fact that the R7 has MLC NAND.  It is working fine, but I have gotten away from Toolbox and Guru.</p>
<p>I keep Toolbox and Guru on my computer but would use them now only for firmware updates, which I have only had to do once.  Otherwise, they are too buggy.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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