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	Comments on: Mach Xtreme Technology Announces MX-ES Ultra USB 3.0 Flash Drives With SLC NAND	</title>
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		By: Benjamin Hojnik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Hojnik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2014 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/mach-xtreme-technology-announces-mx-es-ultra-usb-3-0-flash-drives-slc-nand/#comment-20151&quot;&gt;Jim Clark&lt;/a&gt;.

Considering the simplistic nature of flash drive controllers and the fact, that lower grade TLC is only good for around 100s of rewrites, its prefectly possible to destroy a smallish flash drive like that. Just put it to a random write enviroment and you&#039;re gonna trash it very quickly.



And yes. SLC or MLC makes a whole lot of sense, once you get down to smaller capacities. Maybe real SLC is a bit overkill (a simple pseudo SLC made out of MLC would do the trick just fine).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/mach-xtreme-technology-announces-mx-es-ultra-usb-3-0-flash-drives-slc-nand/#comment-20151">Jim Clark</a>.</p>
<p>Considering the simplistic nature of flash drive controllers and the fact, that lower grade TLC is only good for around 100s of rewrites, its prefectly possible to destroy a smallish flash drive like that. Just put it to a random write enviroment and you&#8217;re gonna trash it very quickly.</p>
<p>And yes. SLC or MLC makes a whole lot of sense, once you get down to smaller capacities. Maybe real SLC is a bit overkill (a simple pseudo SLC made out of MLC would do the trick just fine).</p>
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		By: Jim Clark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not necessary to use SLC NAND in a USB Flash Drive. Nowadays producers turned to produce TLC SSDs to be able to provide more affordable products. I do not think that SLC NAND chips will maintain a much much better performance than MLC or TLC. In my opinion the most essential part is the controller. And also cache memory. (Les knows better than me). Remember Samsung 840 Evo TLC. It is super fast. On the other hand do not worry about endurance. You can manage endurance problem thanks to some special softwares (ECC, Trim, Garbage Collection, etc..). For example Samsung 845 DC Evo offers 600 TB write endurance. This is much much longer than MLC products of Sandisk/Toshiba and Micron/Crucial. They offer only 72 TB write endurance for their MLC chips. Moreover a normal consumer CAN NOT! consume the write endurance capacity of a TLC SSD or TLC USB Flash Drive. According to me TLC is enough for a consumer. Only need a good! wear levelling system and TRIM, Garbage Collection functions to save the performance for a long time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not necessary to use SLC NAND in a USB Flash Drive. Nowadays producers turned to produce TLC SSDs to be able to provide more affordable products. I do not think that SLC NAND chips will maintain a much much better performance than MLC or TLC. In my opinion the most essential part is the controller. And also cache memory. (Les knows better than me). Remember Samsung 840 Evo TLC. It is super fast. On the other hand do not worry about endurance. You can manage endurance problem thanks to some special softwares (ECC, Trim, Garbage Collection, etc..). For example Samsung 845 DC Evo offers 600 TB write endurance. This is much much longer than MLC products of Sandisk/Toshiba and Micron/Crucial. They offer only 72 TB write endurance for their MLC chips. Moreover a normal consumer CAN NOT! consume the write endurance capacity of a TLC SSD or TLC USB Flash Drive. According to me TLC is enough for a consumer. Only need a good! wear levelling system and TRIM, Garbage Collection functions to save the performance for a long time.</p>
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		By: Jim Vogts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Vogts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/mach-xtreme-technology-announces-mx-es-ultra-usb-3-0-flash-drives-slc-nand/#comment-20116&quot;&gt;Benjamin Hojnik&lt;/a&gt;.

Well thank you. I have various needs and use a few PCs to stream data stored into RAM as cache, which then targets the SSDs to complete the stream. Certain apps can stream at a few hundred MBps, which is Seq.Reads, but I am pretty sure the random IOps plays a huge role as each new RAM buffer that gets targeted, requires another IO. 70k-80k work pretty well. I do look forward to having a HBub with 3 or 4 devices that can actually make a cheap laptop very tempting. I will check into the Sans benchmarks, cheerz.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/mach-xtreme-technology-announces-mx-es-ultra-usb-3-0-flash-drives-slc-nand/#comment-20116">Benjamin Hojnik</a>.</p>
<p>Well thank you. I have various needs and use a few PCs to stream data stored into RAM as cache, which then targets the SSDs to complete the stream. Certain apps can stream at a few hundred MBps, which is Seq.Reads, but I am pretty sure the random IOps plays a huge role as each new RAM buffer that gets targeted, requires another IO. 70k-80k work pretty well. I do look forward to having a HBub with 3 or 4 devices that can actually make a cheap laptop very tempting. I will check into the Sans benchmarks, cheerz.</p>
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		By: Benjamin Hojnik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Hojnik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/mach-xtreme-technology-announces-mx-es-ultra-usb-3-0-flash-drives-slc-nand/#comment-20110&quot;&gt;Jim Vogts&lt;/a&gt;.

Probobly sux. Flash drives, fast or slow tend to be tuned for sequential workload (because face it, thats what matters most). That, combined with very simplistic cotnrollers and no dram cache makes them pretty slow for random workload.


Exception to this rule is sandisk extreme, which uses controller from their lowend ssd series. And some &quot;flashdrives&quot; based on sandforce.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/mach-xtreme-technology-announces-mx-es-ultra-usb-3-0-flash-drives-slc-nand/#comment-20110">Jim Vogts</a>.</p>
<p>Probobly sux. Flash drives, fast or slow tend to be tuned for sequential workload (because face it, thats what matters most). That, combined with very simplistic cotnrollers and no dram cache makes them pretty slow for random workload.</p>
<p>Exception to this rule is sandisk extreme, which uses controller from their lowend ssd series. And some &#8220;flashdrives&#8221; based on sandforce.</p>
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		By: Jim Vogts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Vogts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2014 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any idea on the IOps..?]]></description>
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